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Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to Proposed Standard

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 10 February 2009 19:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to Proposed Standard
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Tim,

On 2009-02-10 18:32, Tim Bray wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> FWIW (and it would be good if other actual
>> IETF participants care to indicate +1 if they agree):
>>
>> The actual words in RedPhone's current disclosure:
>>
>> "RedPhone Security hereby asserts that the techniques for
>> sending and receiving authorizations defined in TLS Authorizations
>> Extensions (version draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt) do not
>> infringe upon RedPhone Security's intellectual property rights (IPR)..."
> 
> 
> I'm wondering why you reproduced this paragraph and omitted the following
> six.  This is not a rhetorical question. -Tim

Because they don't apply to the document we are being asked about.
We aren't being asked about a document defining use cases.

Whenever you implement *anything* involving *any* standard,
some of the use cases might infringe any number of patents.
That's a problem between the implementor and the patent
holders, and doesn't concern the standards body.

     Brian

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