Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Mon, 16 September 2013 18:06 UTC
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:06:15 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
Subject: Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors
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--On Monday, September 16, 2013 18:34 +0100 Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >> If the goal is to include contact info for the authors in the >> document and in fact you can't be contacted using the info is >> it contact info? > > While I didn't say that the goal was to provide contact > info[*], an individual can do so through their ORCID profile, > which they manage and can update at any time. The goal of the "author's address" section of the RFCs is _precisely_ contact information. See, e.g., draft-flanagan-style-02 and its predecessors. I can see some advantages in including ORCID or some similar identifier along with the other contact information. I've been particularly concerned about a related issue in which we permit non-ASCII author names and then have even more trouble keeping track of equivalences than you "J. Smith" example implies and for which such an identifier would help. But, unless we were to figure out how to require, not only that people have ORCIDs but that they have and maintain contact information there (not just "can do so"), I'd consider it useful supplemental information, not a replacement for the contact information that is now supposed to be present. Treating an ORCID (or equivalent) as supplemental would also avoid requiring the RSE to inquire about guarantees about the permanence and availability of the relevant database. It may be fine; I'd just like to avoid having to go there. best, john
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors joel jaeggli
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors David Morris
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Greg Daley
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John R Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for bibliographers Dave Cridland
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Richardson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Steve Crocker
- RE: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Pat Thaler
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Scott Brim
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Carsten Bormann
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Michael Tuexen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Yoav Nir
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Warren Kumari
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Hector Santos
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Juliao Braga
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for con… John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors George Michaelson
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andrew G. Malis
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Ted Lemon
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Stephen Farrell
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Tony Hansen
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Andy Mabbett
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John C Klensin
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Spencer Dawkins
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Melinda Shore
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors Noel Chiappa
- Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors John Levine