Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details

Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> Fri, 01 April 2016 07:25 UTC

Return-Path: <rsk@gsp.org>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5721E12D581 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:25:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3uvXAIxNy-RL for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 749EB12D539 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.15.1/8.14.9) with SMTP id u317P62p007565 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:25:07 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 03:25:06 -0400
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org>
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details
Message-ID: <20160401072506.GA22876@gsp.org>
References: <20160330202243.4795.63685.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <56FC7167.4010409@nomountain.net> <A4B09E64B56CD0B8C4379A99@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <A4B09E64B56CD0B8C4379A99@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/SOSzSj6cCx3tm-F9io3deF_uELs>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:25:11 -0000

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 02:29:15PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> A registration requirement for remote participants is a major
> policy change and one for people who merely want to passively
> observe is something I believe the community has several times
> concluded is inappropriate given privacy, etc., concerns.  So,
> who made this decision and how?  Unless the answer involves a
> community discussion and Last Call or equivalent process that I
> missed (and apparently Melinda did too), if the answer to "who
> decided" involves anyone in the IETF Leadership, would they
> please offer to resign?

I strongly concur.  Nobody should have to surrender *any* form
of personal identification merely to passively observe.

---rsk