Re: [79all] IETF Badge

Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> Thu, 11 November 2010 11:38 UTC

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:38:45 -0800
From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
Subject: Re: [79all] IETF Badge
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> Being required to carry one's badge is indeed a minor issue. Allowing
> the local host to dictate how we run our meetings is a major issue.
> 
> Peter
> 

And having to display your badge = "dictate how we run our meetings" ???

I've said this before and I will say it again: If we think the IETF is 
an international organization and we seek to "spread the pain" wrt to
travel etc, then, yes, we will from time to time have to suffer "local
customs" which may include riding trains, decifering non-English 
language and characters, eating "foreign food" and so on.

For 20 - 30 seconds, try to imagine what it is like for someone from 
China travelling to Minneapolis to attend an IETF. 

Scary? You bet. Yet it's been going on for years.


Ole