Comments for <I-D of Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page>

Abdussalam Baryun <> Sun, 17 June 2012 15:06 UTC

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Subject: Comments for <I-D of Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page>
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The abstract mentions 'many people',  because many people may mean 4 to 10
people. The annonced I-D lacks the method of discussion in the community
(discussing such change), the draft mentions the input from any community
individual to be accepted by editor and then approved by IESG, but does not
mention the methodology of discussion between community members nor between
editor and members, also no announcements of such updates mentioned in

suggest> amend in abstract the word 'many' to the word  'some', or mention
like in the introduction the desire of community.

suggest> to add> to the draft that a discussion group to discuss
inputs/suggestions before the editors undertakes changes. The draft to
specify the discussion ( may be either on-List or during the IETF
meetings). I prefer to mention; the face-to-face IETF meeting discussion in
this procedure issue.

suggest> to add>  the announcement for last call of Tao changes by the

suggest> replace in section2> line 7> The editor of the Tao decides which
proposed changes should be submitted to the IESG for the next version of
the Tao.

     replace with> The editor of the Tao decides which proposed changes
should be
                          submitted to the IESG for the next version of the
Tao after
                          the community discussed the changes.

suggest> A time period of updates to be made, and input from the community
to be collected, and editor to submit to IESG. It will be helpful also to


On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:29 PM, The IESG <> wrote:

> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
> the following document:
> - 'Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page'
>  <draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-02.txt> as Informational RFC
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> mailing lists by 2012-07-13. Exceptionally, comments may be
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> Abstract
>   Discussion of the "Tao of the IETF" during 2012 made it clear that
>   many people want the document published only as a web page, not as an
>   RFC that needs to be periodically updated.  This document specifies
>   how the Tao will be published as a web page.
> The file can be obtained via
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.