RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07
"Josh Howlett" <Josh.Howlett@ja.net> Thu, 12 February 2009 21:47 UTC
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Subject: RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:47:32 -0000
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From: Josh Howlett <Josh.Howlett@ja.net>
To: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>, Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
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Hannes wrote: > Melinda wrote: > > > > and that there are > > some non-trivial advantages to carrying authorizations in-band. > Namely... I don't wish to speak for Melinda, but this is a view shared by many within my own community. I have a long list of applications, collected from within this community, with which they would like to use SAML-based authorisation; and it seems to me that the ability for application protocols to share a common mechanism for expressing authorisation would mitigate or perhaps even avoid the need to make application-specific authorisation extensions. (The fact that SAML-based Web SSO uses SAML that is bound to the application-layer is, I believe, only an artifact of a requirement to avoid modifying contemporary Web browsers and I don't think it is an approach that would necessarily be desirable for the general case.) Binding authorisation to TLS, as suggested by this document, is one approach that would satisfy the 'common mechanism' requirement indicated previously. josh. JANET(UK) is a trading name of The JNT Association, a company limited by guarantee which is registered in England under No. 2881024 and whose Registered Office is at Lumen House, Library Avenue, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire. OX11 0SG
- TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07 Eric Rescorla
- Re: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Michael StJohns
- RE: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- Re: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Melinda Shore
- Re: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Tim Polk
- Re: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… SM
- TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz-07 Eric Rescorla
- RE: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Angelos D. Keromytis
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Melinda Shore
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Josh Howlett
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Sam Hartman
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Peter Sylvester
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Josh Howlett
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Josh Howlett
- RE: TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls-authz… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Melinda Shore
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Kemp, David P.
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Kemp, David P.
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [TLS] TLS WG Chair Comments on draft-ietf-tls… Josh Howlett