Re: Res: Res: IETF Attendance by continent
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:24:27 -0700
To: Frederico Faria <fred_faria@yahoo.com.br>
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Subject: Re: Res: Res: IETF Attendance by continent
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Hi Frederico, At 20:50 11-08-10, Frederico Faria wrote: >in Brazil. Unfortunately, industry does likely not apply >resources to the production of standards. Most of them are just >"standards consumers". Academia produces some research related to >IETF standards; however I guess there is still low involvement in >IETF activities because research is commonly not applied. In >summary, individuals do not have a significant involvement in IETF >activities because they are not so motivated by local constraints. Well said. A few weeks ago someone told me: "Please be patient with the grumpy old folks." Maybe that can be added to the Tao. Regards, -sm
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