Re: IETF LLC & IETF Participation from USA-sanctioned countries

[Fernando Gont <[e-mail]>]

Hi, Bob,

On 8/3/21 12:05, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Fernando,
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Fernando Gont <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 7/3/21 16:14, Christian Huitema wrote: [....]
>>> This is not exactly an issue of prejudice. AFAIK, we do not have
>>> checks to verify that some new subscriber to an IETF working
>>> group is not accessing the server from a penalized country
>>> through a VPN, or any such workaround.
>> 
>> FWIW, at the very least, I was wondering what would be the effect
>> of things for folks that openly and truthfully employ email
>> addresses from e.g. ccTLDs from said countries, or that indicate a
>> postal address from one of said countries when registering to an
>> IETF meeting.
> 
> I note that filtering by ccTLD wouldn’t work very well, as a ccTLD
> only says where the domain was registered, not where the user is.
> For example, I checked and I could register hinden.ir.

For the most part, the motivation of this thread has been to find an 
authoritative answer regarding how OFAC compliance could possibly affect 
participation.

The registration process requires a share of personal information, and 
part of my question is whether such information provided during 
registration could affect the ability of affected parties to participate.

Similarly, I wonder if there are any constraints for the same group to 
e.g. author internet-drafts, and attest affiliation with organizations 
from said countries (e.g. universities).

P.S.: FWIW, I'm generally against of *any* form of blocking/filtering 
people people from participating in the IETF based on attributes such as 
their country of origin, nationality, or their whereabouts (whether 
implemented by looking at email addresses or in any other way).

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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