Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "IETF work is done on the mailing lists")
Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net> Sat, 01 December 2012 19:07 UTC
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On 11/30/2012 3:29 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> There is no formal process that involves "adopting" anything. >> >> If you mean that we haven't documented a/the formal process, you are >> correct. If you mean that the IETF has not moved towards rather formal >> steps for explicitly adopting working group drafts, I disagree. > ... >> Today, there is typically explicit text in the charter about adoption or >> there is explicit wg approval. > > Indeed: we always have the option of having the charter limit > management options. Barry, I think you are trying to make a very different point from the one I am trying to make. I think you are trying to assert that there is flexibility while I am trying to assert that there is common practice. These are not mutually exclusive points. My point about a formal process having emerged is that a chair/wg wanting to adopt a document has a well-established set of common practice. It's not well (or at all) documented, but it exists in how working groups typically do things. I was not trying to comment on the degree to which that process is mandated. I acknowledge that fully documenting common practice, to make it "official" formal process, must combine both lines of concern. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Brian Trammell
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Randy Bush
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Spencer Dawkins
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Dave Crocker
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
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