RIFT - Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

I would hereby like to ask that the RIFT WG is renamed
because i feel personally oppressed by the fat shaming the name implies.
Trees are just like people, all their shapes are beautiful.

Fat shaming is causing many societal problems around the world.
France just had to create a new law to ban extremely thin models for
example. Many people around the world digest dangerous products or
exercise in health endangering ways to loose weight purely to meet
societal norms.  Even the medical profession is leading this oppression
charge by insisting to rely on old fashioned BMI regimes while new
medical evidence start to point into a different direction.

IETF  Attendees who do not meet societal norms are already discriminated
against by the IETFs sometimes limited quantity of N*XL t-shirts. Also,
every time IETF t-shirts are sourced from Asia, they tend to be at least one
X size smaller than they are supposed to be, further increasing the fat
shaming.

Cheers
   Toerless

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:12:15PM -0400, Donald Eastlake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:58 PM John Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Unfortunately, that's much too simplistic. There are lots of words
> > where the context is crucial. To take a familiar example, Master is a
> > problem in the sense of someone who owns a slave, but not in the sense
> > of someone who knows all about a topic. My daughter got a Master of
> > Arts degree this year and I don't expect her to give it back.
>
> > Certainly some words we should never use at all, like **** and !*%&#
> > but we never use them in I-D's anyway.
> 
> Context always matters. There is an RFC containing the % decoding of
> %66%75%63%6B%65%64. I know because I am the author. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Donald
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> > R's,
> > John

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