Re: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the "Ietf-honest" mailing list])

On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:23 PM, David W. Hankins wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:20:22PM -0500, Scott Brim wrote:
>> Dean's mail does not hurt any of us.  OK, it does take a minute of  
>> our
>> time to unsubscribe but that's it.  The ietf list will see the same
>
> Spam behaviour on the Internet is not "wrong" simply because the email
> of one individual is intolerable, but rather because the behaviour of
> a hive of such individuals is intractable.
>
> So please decide right now precisely how many lists like Dean's would
> be tractable, and create a process to reserve a place in that list.
>

To me, this is simple a matter of courtesy. Sending me an email saying
"I gather that you are interested in foo, I have set up a mailing list  
dedicated to foo,
the instructions to join are here" may be perfectly proper and will  
(from me) generally
get the benefit of the doubt if I feel that the starting inference is  
reasonable.

However, sending me an email saying "I gather that you are interested  
in foo,
I have set up a mailing list dedicated to foo and subscribed you,
the instructions on how to leave are here" is in my opinion never  
proper.

So, my answer to your question is, none.

(This obviously does not include the special case of a mailing list  
master for a list I am a member
of sending me a notice that a list has moved, or notice of other such  
administrative changes.)

Regards
Marshall

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> Software Engineer		     you'll just have to do it again."
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