Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Mon, 07 June 2021 12:16 UTC
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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 08:16:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:32 AM lloydwood@users.sourceforge.net < lloydwood@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Perhaps, if you're all proud of getting banned from Facebook, you might > want to consider how you communicate more generally? > The OP in question was a newspaper report that a group of seditionists are planning an armed occupation of a federal property. It is my opinion that if someone is carrying an AK47 and is threatening to use it to shoot police, they should be treated as terrorists and lethal force is justified. I really don't consider calling an armed uprising 'terrorism' to be hate speech or consider suggesting that people threatening to murder police and the military should be shot without remorse is hate speech. Dean says a lot that is hyberbolic. I was merely pointing out that the US should respond to an armed protest in the exact same way that I would expect the UK police to deal with a similar situation. I will also note that this process board that Facebook is now hiding behind has only been called to decide the case of one white male bigot and that after he was allowed to spew hate for over four years. Other people have been banned for life with absolutely no process. There was a purge of left wing accounts before the 2020 November election which attracted little comment. Only when a racist bigot was banned was a board invented to hide behind. What we have here is the predictable result of a company that failed to take moderation seriously and is now desperately throwing technology at a problem rather than fixing the core problem that they designed their environment to maximize conflict because that was most profitable for them.
- Why we really can't use Facebook for technical di… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Fred Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Töma Gavrichenkov
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Jared Mauch
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Larry Masinter
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Emil Ivov
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Christian Hopps
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Salz, Rich
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Salz, Rich
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Larry Masinter
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Fred Baker
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Larry Masinter
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Lloyd W
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… lloydwood@users.sourceforge.net
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Bron Gondwana
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Keith Moore
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Keith Moore
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Andy Ringsmuth
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Lloyd W
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Keith Moore
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Keith Moore
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Randy Presuhn
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Andy Ringsmuth
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Keith Moore
- Re: Moderation at scale is hard^Wimpossible, or W… John Levine
- Re: Moderation at scale is hard^Wimpossible, or W… Emil Ivov
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Richard Shockey
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Aqua Q Glass
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Aqua Q Glass
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Lloyd W
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Lloyd W
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Lloyd W
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: github terms of service, not Why we really ca… John Levine
- The problem we could solve (re github etc.) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) John R. Levine
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) John C Klensin
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) Michael Richardson
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) Michael Richardson
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: The problem we could solve (re github etc.) Alessandro Vesely
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