Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings

James Polk <jmpolk@cisco.com> Fri, 03 August 2012 22:40 UTC

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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:38:06 -0500
To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
From: James Polk <jmpolk@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings
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Having missed only 2 meetings in 13 years, I can say that no venue 
was perfect, but some were very good. It becomes a case of which 
venues have the fewest "bad" things. I believe this venue was 
exceptional at many things, very good at nearly all others, with the 
bad things being food/snacks served in the crowded hallway and that 
sucky elevator algorithm (which was by far the worst think here).

The crowded hallway we can't change.

We can change where the snacks are served, and I have read that will 
happen for our next meeting in Vancouver here in 15 months.

To me the exceptional aspects far outweighed the bad things - so I'm 
chalking this venue up as one of the best in 13 years of attending 
IETFs, and a *serious* contrast to the Paris venue (which I believe 
was one of the worst - each time we were there, though the city was nice).

However, YMMV

James

At 05:10 PM 8/3/2012, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

>The narrowness of the corridoors, placement of food/drink and all that
>was discussed in our wrap-up meeting this morning, and indeed the
>issues you have raised were indentified as areas for improvement.
>Since we are coming back to THIS hotel, there are certainly things
>that can be done better, and will be done better, next time.
>
>Ole
>
>
>Ole J. Jacobsen
>Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>Cisco Systems
>Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
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>Skype: organdemo
>
>
>On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Mary Barnes wrote:
>
> > The issue that I experienced (and why I'm fussing)  is that if you were
> > attending many sessions in the Regency rooms (and moving rooms between
> > sessions), it was extremely difficult to weave your way through the
> > corridor as many people were having their discussion directly in the middle
> > of the corridor.  There just was not room in that corridor for side
> > conversations.  The situation was made worse as that corridor was where
> > they served the refreshments.   And trying to ask people politely to move
> > generally had no impact in my experience as people were too engaged in
> > their conversations.
> >
> > Mary.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Thomas Nadeau 
> <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with randy. I've never had an issue finding a place to 
> huddle/meet
> > > when necessary at an ietf meeting venue. between the hallways, 
> bar, etc I'm
> > > not sure what the fuss is all about.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> i have no need to micro-manage the secretariat.
> > > >> seems to happen a lot around here...
> > > >
> > > > symptom of too much free time on hands
> > > >
> > > > randy
> > > >
> > >
> >