Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media
Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sat, 12 November 2022 13:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media
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To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 11/12/22 02:50, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > I agree, however, there may no need to be clear on common things about > good/ugly communications, because it is depending on either common > sense (human_group sense) or what is usually done in family/social > organisations. As far as I can tell, "common sense" is one of those phrases that people use to argue for some position that they do not know how to support. It reflects a presumption that everyone else thinks, or should think, like the speaker thinks. Reality is that different people are exposed to widely different conditions and experiences in life, and different people are born with different personalities and values, so each person develops their own sense of the bounds of propriety. To some extent these things are reinforced by other people, but not entirely so. And such reinforcement is often harmful, for example, in that it can serve to protect abusive practices or individuals. No abusive practice that's tolerated by society, and no mistaken notion of how the world works, ever gets changed without some individuals having the courage to violate "common sense" ideas of propriety. Keith
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