Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sat, 12 November 2022 13:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media
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To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 11/12/22 02:50, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:

> I agree, however, there may no need to be clear on common things about 
> good/ugly communications, because it is depending on either common 
> sense (human_group sense) or what is usually done in family/social 
> organisations. 

As far as I can tell, "common sense" is one of those phrases that people 
use to argue for some position that they do not know how to support.   
It reflects a presumption that everyone else thinks, or should think, 
like the speaker thinks.

Reality is that different people are exposed to widely different 
conditions and experiences in life, and different people are born with 
different personalities and values, so each person develops their own 
sense of the bounds of propriety.   To some extent these things are 
reinforced by other people, but not entirely so.   And such 
reinforcement is often harmful, for example, in that it can serve to 
protect abusive practices or individuals.

No abusive practice that's tolerated by society, and no mistaken notion 
of how the world works, ever gets changed without some individuals 
having the courage to violate "common sense" ideas of propriety.

Keith