Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Fri, 25 March 2016 13:55 UTC
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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:54:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations
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Someone kindly pointed out my stupidity off-list that yest this did become an IAB-track RFC in 2013: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6973 On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:06 AM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> At 15:03 29-02-2016, Jari Arkko wrote: >>> >>> The team has been working and they have today published >>> an -00 draft. We'd love to have your feedback and thoughts >>> on this topic! >> >> >> The draft is interesting. Some of the topics which might be of interest >> are: succession planning, fragmentation and cross-culture communication. >> >> If I am not mistaken it is the first time that a (IETF) draft acknowledges >> that politics and technology are intertwined. > > I guess it depends on what you mean by politics. There have certainly > been drafts that discuss law and policy considerations of potential > IETF standards, including this one from us from 2003 (long before I > was here at CDT), that while it never was seen through to official > Informational RFC status, still has a lot of good material in it: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morris-policy-considerations-00 > > "This document is motivated by the recognition that technical design > decisions made within the IETF and other standards bodies can have > significant impacts on public policy concerns." > > -- > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] > e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key > Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 > > CDT's annual dinner, Tech Prom, is April 6, 2016! https://cdt.org/annual-dinner -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 CDT's annual dinner, Tech Prom, is April 6, 2016! https://cdt.org/annual-dinner
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- Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Linda Dunbar
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dave Cridland
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Melinda Shore
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Security for the Internet of Things and Other Thi… Jari Arkko
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Michael Richardson
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Michael Richardson
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Carsten Bormann
- Getting on with Things Eliot Lear
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Theodore V Faber
- RE: Getting on with Things Adrian Farrel
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Stewart Bryant
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Stewart Bryant
- Re: Getting on with Things Eliot Lear
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Getting on with Things Michael Richardson
- Re: Getting on with Things Carsten Bormann
- Re: Getting on with Things Medel Ramirez
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Getting on with Things Gmail
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Livingood, Jason
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Scott Kitterman
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Eliot Lear
- Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Dave Crocker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Jari Arkko
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… l.wood
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… George Michaelson
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eggert, Lars
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… lloyd.wood
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eggert, Lars
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… S Moonesamy
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… S Moonesamy
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Randy Bush
- RE: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Russ White
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Melinda Shore
- Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affec… Eliot Lear