Re: IETF mail server and SSLv3
Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Tue, 26 January 2016 21:16 UTC
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Tom, Phillip, Impressive? Not much. If anything, I feel a bit embarrassed that we are updating our servers only now :-) This really was just an IETF service announcement. The tools team felt that if we are making changes we should announce them rather than surprise anybody. We plan to announce similar other things as well, when there are changes. And I certainly believe this particular change was a technically reasonable thing to do. We do of course have other things to discuss — how much the IETF is doing for improving email security in the Internet, and what can be done to it to begin with. But that is a broader topic that IMO, doesn’t have much to do with what specific arrangements we have for our own e-mail server (and at a particular layer of that server, even). Phillip’s questions are very rasonable in that broader topic, however. Jari
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