Re: https at ietf.org

"Marco Davids (Prive)" <mdavids@forfun.net> Thu, 07 November 2013 00:17 UTC

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On 05/11/13 20:38, Yoav Nir wrote:
>> Enabling 'HTTP Strict Transport Security' (HSTS, RFC6797) might be a
>> good first step.
> HSTS means that HTTP is off (or just redirects you to HTTPS). The first S stands for "strict" and we mean it. :-)
>
Well, not entirely; the redirect is strictly not part of HSTS. Without a
redirect we give visitors an option; if you come in via http, fine... If
you come in via https with a browser that understands HSTS, then it's
https from that moment on.

And once we're all used to that, we can add the redirect ;-)

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Marco