Re: pgp signing in van

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Sun, 08 September 2013 23:20 UTC

Return-Path: <stpeter@stpeter.im>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0644621E8100 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.473
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHXXivbi3nTH for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82CC21F9F2B for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ergon.local (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4BAC414CF; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 17:24:14 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID: <522D0617.5030101@stpeter.im>
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:19:51 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
Subject: Re: pgp signing in van
References: <m2zjrq22wp.wl%randy@psg.com> <2309.1378487864@sandelman.ca> <522A5A45.7020208@isi.edu> <CA2A6416-7168-480A-8CE1-FB1EB6290C77@nominum.com> <522A71A5.6030808@gmail.com> <6DE840CA-2F3D-4AE5-B86A-90B39E07A35F@nominum.com> <CAPv4CP_ySqyEa57jUocVxX6M6DYef=DDdoB+XwmDMt5F9eGn1A@mail.gmail.com> <18992.1378676025@sandelman.ca> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077527BC7A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <522CF86C.9040909@stpeter.im> <522D03C4.5060807@isdg.net>
In-Reply-To: <522D03C4.5060807@isdg.net>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:20:01 -0000

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 9/8/13 5:09 PM, Hector Santos wrote:
> 
> On 9/8/2013 6:21 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> On 9/8/13 3:50 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's the upside to signing my email?   I know why I want 
>>> everybody I know to sign my email, but what's the upside for me
>>> if I do it? Until there's a clear win, it's not going to
>>> happen.
>> 
>> There are two that I see:
>> 
>> 1. Since it's quite easy to send faked messages (and I have seen
>> that done on public lists in an effort to embarrass or impugn the
>> sender), signing one's messages makes it clear that the message
>> really came from you.
>> 
>> 2. Signing one's messages is a way of advertising that one is
>> capable of engaging in encrypted communication. (This might not
>> be a welcome analogy, but it's kind of like open carry for
>> encryption.)
>> 
>> Peter
> 
> But until the MUAs across the board support it out of the box, I
> believe most people don't know about it or know what it means.

So that's an opportunity to educate people. For instance, perhaps the
Internet Society might be interested in taking on that task.

We don't need 100% of everything in order to make incremental
improvements.

Peter

- -- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin)
Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/
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=blPv
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----