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Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 10 May 2018 18:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: IESG Telechats -- WebEx failure
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:03:13 -0700
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Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, John Leslie <john@jlc.net>, IETF <IETF@ietf.org>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Ekr,

I run Sierra (10.12) and regularly have problems with Webex crashing on startup.  I use the latest versions of Safari and Crome.  I don’t think this problem is limited to old versions of the OS.  I do fall back to the web version, but it’s UI is lacking IMHO.

It also doesn’t support IPv6.

Bob


> On May 10, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net> wrote:
> Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you download a modern browser (Chrome, Firefox, and I imagine there's
> > some way to get a new Safari) you should be able to join via browser (WebRTC).
> 
>    I have the latest Chrome, Firefox, and Safari, so far as I have can tell,
> that will run on my
> ]
> ]  OS X
> ] Version 10.8.5
> ]...
> ] Processor 1.8 GHz Intel Core i5
> ] Mmory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
> 
>    As I said, this is somewhat ancient... However, IMHO, it is no more ancient
> than what the majority of third-world IETF participants can afford.
> 
> I don't know what people can afford, but given that Mountain Lion has been out of
> Apple support for over two years, I don't really think there's much of an expectation
> that people will continue to support software for it.
> 
> 
> 
>    I'm not entirely sure what "join via browser (WebRTC)" includes.
> 
> It includes a full interface, including slide sharing and speaker identification.
> 
> 
>    Obviously, cisco is entitled to update their free-of-charge software on
> whatever schedule is convenient to them -- but the IETF should try to use
> tools which don't break without better warning.
> 
> See above.
> 
> -Ekr
> 
> 
> --
> John Leslie <john@jlc.net> (Prior Narrative Scribe)
>

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