Re: [IETF] Re: Montevideo statement

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When did we change the list from IETF Discuss to IETF Disgust?
Classic, BTW.  Kudos.


On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Warren Kumari wrote:

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> On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Randy Bush <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>> The ccTLD system grew up at a time when many governments were
>>> fairly hostile to the Internet and/or the DNS (that is different
>>> from being hostile to, e.g., free and private flow of
>>> information over the Internet).  The ccTLD environment still
>>> supports ccTLD administrations that are independent of the local
>>> government unless that government is so hostile to them that it
>>> is willing to use national law to force them out.  One
>>> consequence of that model is that, for the ccTLD system to
>>> function, neither IANA nor anyone else needs to figure out who
>>> is the actual, legitimate, government of a country.  Governments
>>> have a tendency to be quite jealous of their rights to
>>> "recognize" other governments (or not).  Keeping IANA out of
>>> that business was an explicit goal at the time RFC 1591 was
>>> written, for multiple reasons.
>>>
>>> If the government of a country is the required root of trust in
>>> that country's ccTLD, we take ourselves several steps closer to
>>> requiring that governments approve ccTLD administrations (not
>>> merely not being actively opposed to them).  We create an attack
>>> vector from the government on the ccTLD and registrations in it.
>>> Unlike shutting down a ccTLD administration by offering to throw
>>> its membership in jail, the control and mechanisms that implies
>>> may not require whatever passes for due process in that country.
>>> And such trust authority can provide a vector for required
>>> government approval of individual registrations and registrants,
>>> just as the US Government has turned a general IANA oversight
>>> requirement into case-by-case approval of root entries.
>>>
>>> Be careful what you wish for.
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>> +1
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> Dislike doing this, but:
> +1
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