Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Wed, 03 November 2021 12:55 UTC

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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2021 23:54:47 +1100
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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Subject: Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, at 19:24, tom petch wrote:
> On 31/10/2021 03:38, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > s/Unprofessional commentary/Uncivil commentary/
> >
> > Merriam-Webster Online says:
> >
> > Definition of uncivil
> >
> > 1 : not civilized : barbarous
> > 2 : lacking in courtesy : ill-mannered, impolite uncivil remarks
> > 3 : not conducive to civic harmony and welfare
> 
> I slept on this and decided that I prefer professional.  Civil is to me 
> more social and less, well, professional.  This is about getting the 
> work done, focussing on technical matters, with reason, logic, avoiding 
> 'ad hominem' and emotional outbursts (as the follow-up e-mails in the 
> thread may show).
> 
> I would consider courteous, respectful, considerate but come back to 
> professional as the best IMO.

I kind of agree, but I also realise that there's probably some cultural baggage here and civil might translate better in the parts of the world which aren't primarily English-speaking and to people who aren't corporate professionals.

Cheers,

Bron.

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