CH and p2p [Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it]
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Thu, 15 September 2005 08:36 UTC
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Cc: ietfdbh@comcast.net, david.kessens@nokia.com, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, 'IETF Discussion' <ietf@ietf.org>, 'Eliot Lear' <lear@cisco.com>
Subject: CH and p2p [Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it]
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If you want to discuss this as a generic issue, please do so with an appropriate subject and without cross posting. Thanks. BTW I agree that there is a generic architectural issue here that merits discussion. Brian Michael Thomas wrote: > Ned Freed wrote: > >>> Ned Freed wrote: >>> > If I were to object to Eliot's proposal (I don't - in fact I strongly >>> > support >>> > it), it would be on the grounds that the IETF should be taking a long >>> > hard look >>> > at the issues surrounding call home in general, not just in the >>> special >>> > case of >>> > SNMP. >> >> >> >>> I'll bite: what could the IETF do if it looked >>> long and hard? >> >> >> >> Well, the one approach that immediately comes to mind is that the >> introduction >> of a third party might provide a means of getting timely information >> about >> software updates without sacrificing user privacy. >> >> Such a third party would act as a repository for update information >> provided by >> vendors. Applications would then "call home" to one of these repositories >> rather than directly to the vendor. Various anonymyzing tricks could be >> employed to minimize information leakage even if the third party was >> compromised. > > > You mean we could invent Bitorrent? :) > > Mike, doesn't it strike others as odd > that ietf is completely outside of the > p2p bizness? > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Marc Manthey
- RE: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Nelson, David
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- … Paul Hoffman
- CH and p2p [Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Paul Hoffman
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Scott W Brim
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISM… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Michael Thomas
- RE: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Nicholas Staff