Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: CACAO

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 13 September 2018 02:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: CACAO
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
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Hiya,

On 13/09/18 03:37, Barry Leiba wrote:
> This really should have come with a fuller description: I shouldn't
> have to contact the list admins just to find out whether a new mailing
> list ought to be on my radar or not.

Yeah. And the archive's empty. And it uses the almost
always meaningless prefix "cyber" over and over in
many predictable (but meaningless) ways.

There is a draft [1] though (from a pointer sent to
the saag list). Mind you that includes this sentence:
"Threat Actors and Intrusion Sets are constantly
advancing at an increasing rate relative to cyber
defense."

So that's all bad signs IMO then (except for the
existence of the draft.)

I'm also a bit sad that we've gotten to the point
where we're setting up lists driven to any extent
by what's really an ill-defined marketing buzzword.

OTOH, the goal according to [1] is an information
model, so it could be mostly to totally harmless I
guess;-)

Only other thing to note is that this happens so
often (new list for who knows what) that maybe the
tooling's a bit wrong and encourages folks to ok
or ask for lists without considering that others
don't have the same (or any) context.

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jordan-cacao-introduction-00


> 
> Barry
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:58 PM, IETF Secretariat
> <ietf-secretariat@ietf.org> wrote:
>> A new IETF non-working group email list has been created.
>>
>> List address: cacao@ietf.org
>> Archive: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cacao/
>> To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cacao
>>
>> Purpose:
>> This email list will be used to discuss Collaborative Automated Course of
>> Action Operations (CACAO) for Cyber Security
>>
>> For additional information, please contact the list administrators.
>>
> 
>