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Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work

Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Mon, 05 April 2021 19:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work
From: Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org>
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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> 
> You are free to disagree about the claims by many individuals that the uses of the terms master/slave are offensive.
> The claims are not absurd, and attempting as you do to dismiss them as absurd is inappropriate at best, and possibly worse.

To be judged to be an offensive term, a term must be used and understood
to insult, demean, denigrate, ...

There's a rich supply of offensive terms in the English language, but
master and slave are not among them.

Show me a recent (last 50 years) documentary, newspaper article, book, play,
film, in which someone intends emotional injury upon another by calling them
"slave"?  (Sorry, BDSM literature doesn't count).

Where are the offensive uses of those terms?

I have a Master's degree, is that offensive?

This whole exercise is mere posture.  It reeks of "Yes minister" logic,
we must do something about injustice, this is something, therefore we
must do it.

-- 
	Viktor.

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