Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100

Tony Rutkowski <tony@yaanatech.com> Thu, 26 May 2016 20:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100
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This whole development is about as surreal as it gets -
arguably the result of the politicization of the IETF
(and probably being subsidized by ORG domain money).
This activity should be run by a business manager - as
it was in the old days.

Having intersected with the IETF and its precursors
since the 1970s, the interesting side question is whether
the IETF will live to celebrate a 150th meeting, or it is
in the throes of extinction.  Would make for an interesting
dialog as the rapidly expanding NFV-SDN universe
continues to emerge.

--tony

ps. Have had innumerable positive reactions to the
CircleID article. But that's probably to be expected.


On 2016-05-26 4:21 PM, Margaret Cullen wrote:
>> On May 26, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>; wrote:
>>
>> Right, but should IETF need to hire lawyers in each country in order to get an expert opinion about whether members of each of an enumerated set of groups can legally be harassed when attending a meeting there, and about the likelihood of that happening?
> What about the IAOC writing to the IETF list and/or recent attendees when they are considering going to a new country, asking if anyone has any feedback on the idea?  And then considering that feedback _before_ making a final decision, signing a contract, etc?
>
> It seems to me that if this issue had been raised before the IAOC had made a non-refundable $80K deposit and had negotiated $150K in benefits from the Singapore government, there would have been a lot more latitude for choosing a different location.
>
> Margaret
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