Re: IETF Logo Wear
Philip Nesser <phil@nesser.com> Thu, 19 August 2010 16:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF Logo Wear
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IIRC the phrase started out as "IP over Everthing" back in the days when there was still competing network protocols and we were writing standards for IP over Infiniband, IP over IEEE <blah>, etc since there were "competing" protocols X.25 over blah, IPX over blah, CNLP over blah, etc... and network adaptors were still fairly pricey. At some point in the mid-90s the emphasis started to shift and we started thinking of almost anything being an "end point" and it became more "IP on Everything". ---> Phil On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu> wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > But his T-shirt says "IP *on* Everything" which makes it funnier. > > > > > http://jboss-uat.crn.com/channel-encyclopedia/definition-print.htm?term=IP+on+Everything&printType=image > > > > Ole > > my english is not good, but doesn't "on" carry more significant meaning > over "over"? > over only means that ip pkts get carried over (so the everything here only > means different carrier) > > with on, "everything" can have a much broader range, from your toaster to > mars > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, John C Klensin wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> --On Monday, August 16, 2010 14:39 -0700 Dave CROCKER > >> <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On 8/16/2010 2:30 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > >>>> or http://www.pdphoto.org/PictureDetail.php?mat=&pg=7634 > >>> > >>> Given that the pun is based on Vint's observing that we had IP > >>> running "over" all sorts of different media, as I recall his > >>> comment was "IP over Everything". > >> > >> Yes. His comment and his tee-shirt. > >> > >> john > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Ietf mailing list > >> Ietf@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > >> > >
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