Re: An oversight function - composition thereof?

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Thu, 16 September 2004 12:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: An oversight function - composition thereof?
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John C Klensin wrote:
> 
> --On Wednesday, 15 September, 2004 11:10 +0200 Brian E Carpenter
> <brc@zurich.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>...
>>
>>>3) What's an appropriate selection mechanism for that group?
>>
>>Firstly, I'd say that the IETF and IAB Chairs, and one other
>>IESG
>>and IAB member, should be included automatically. I also think
>>that the ISOC President/CEO should be included automatically.
> 
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I think this is wrong.  The reasons are summarized in my recent
> long posting, although from a somewhat different perspective.
> It seems obvious to have a significant voting presence in this
> body by the IETF and IAB Chairs, plus additional IAB/IESG folks.
> However, if the group also handles (or directs the handling of)
> donations, there is the serious potential for the appearance of
> a conflict of interest if the folks who are making the
> standards-approval decisions are also in that loop.

I'd agree, *if* I thought this team (or the Admin Director)
would have anything to do with soliciting the donations - but
in my view its role should only include oversight of the spending,
not of the money-raising. Actually that's a fairly powerful
argument for using ISOC as the vehicle - it will be straightforward
with ISOC to separate the money-raising from the money-spending.

>  ... The IAB
> (and its Chair) are in considerably better shape on this than
> the IESG (and the IETF Chair), since the IAB has not direct
> standards-setting responsibility.  But the turf is pretty
> dangerous and, ultimately, the IETF's collective reputation for
> balance and impartiality is one of our most important assets.

Yes, and we should certainly adjust the balance of the committee, or
Board, or whatever it is, to reflect this concern.

    Brian

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