RE: Barely literate minutes

"Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com> Thu, 29 November 2012 09:26 UTC

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Subject: RE: Barely literate minutes
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As a chair I always find it useful to go back and review the audio/Meetecho recording following the meeting and whilst doing so I might as well tidy up the minutes.

The F2F meeting time can be quite hectic for the chairs and I tend to be concentrating on making sure that we stay on time and everybody gets a fair chance to say what they want to.  So it is a must to go back over the recording and make sure I understood all the points people made during the meeting and I might as well check the minutes whilst doing so.

Andy 





> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Dave Crocker
> Sent: 28 November 2012 21:46
> To: Peter Saint-Andre
> Cc: IETF discussion list
> Subject: Re: Barely literate minutes
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/28/2012 1:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > IMHO it is the chairs' responsibility to listen to the audio
> recording
> > and produce minutes from that (or at least check the scribe's minutes
> > against the audio recording). I've done this in the past (full
> > disclosure: not always) and it is a lot of work.
> 
> 
> I strongly disagree.
> 
> Chairs have a high workload already.  A strength of a working group
> needs to be its ability to distribute work amongst participants.
> 
> If a working group cannot obtain the services of a participant willing
> to take notes and be responsible for getting wg review of them, then
> the
> wg has bigger problems.
> 
> d/
> 
> ps. I'll repeat that I think f2f needs to be essentially irrelevant to
> the assessment of wg consensus, except perhaps as an efficiency hack
> that permits more terse exchanges on the mailing list.
> --
>   Dave Crocker
>   Brandenburg InternetWorking
>   bbiw.net