Re: GitHub blockage in Spain

[Jim Fenton <[e-mail]>]

While I think that blocking something like GitHub is a bad thing to do,
I'm not suggesting we step into another's country's politics.

My question is mostly about the practicalities of how attendees will be
able to use GitHub if the block is still in place then. We are doing an
increasing amount of IETF work in GitHub, and attendees need access to
it to do other work as well. If we can negotiate an arrangement that
will exempt the IETF network from the block, that would (IMO) be a
minimally acceptable solution. Of course, attendees staying offsite
would still need to use a VPN or something to access GitHub from their
hotel, AirBNB, etc. and that's still a bad situation.

On 11/1/19 10:09 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> Jared,
>
> I think Jim's last worry was about IETF network :) The way I read and
> understand it that having IETF in Madrid indirectly support such Spain
> gov actions. 
>
> I suggest we move it to Barcelona. 
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:04 PM Jared Mauch <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     > On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Jim Fenton <[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >
>     > I'm hearing that Spain is blocking GitHub:
>     >
>     > https://reclaimthenet.org/github-spain-blocked-catalan-protests/
>     >
>     > If that were to continue, how would we handle that for IETF 108
>     (next
>     > July in Madrid)?
>
>     Relevance?
>
>     Often these blocks are either done in local DNS or at the local
>     ISP level.  When IETF rolls in, the network is often not part of
>     this.  You’ve seen this work well in countries where the local
>     blocking might have been an issue, the most prominent of them
>     being IETF in China.
>
>     I get that some people don’t like GitHub and if you want to ask
>     IETF to run a gitlab instance or similar it would likely mitigate
>     the issue as well.
>
>     - jared
>