Re: build personal contacts outside of meetings

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 13:22 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:16:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: build personal contacts outside of meetings
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Pictures are a really good idea.   I am terrible with names, as are a lot
of slightly spectral IETFers, and being able to practice the association of
a name to a face would be _really_ helpful.   I actually had a long
conversation about this over dinner with several other IETFers in BA, and
it turned out that we all had the same problem.

The problem with a jabber "hallway" is that it's not quite what you want:
IETF hallway conversations don't broadcast to all of the conference
attendees all of the time.   Simply being available on jabber to IETF
members probably accomplishes what hall conversations normally accomplish,
except for the model of walking up to a clump of IETFers one of whom you
need to talk to, and winding up talking to the rest as well.

I can easily imagine simulating hallway conversations if we all had VR
googles (and it would be very Snow Crash as well) but in practice I don't
think we are really there yet.

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:32 AM, <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Loa,
>
> On May 24, 2016 7:44 AM, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2016-05-24 17:24, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> >>
> >> Alia,
> >>
> >>> I've wondered about whether it would help/add to have pictures of
> IETFers
> >>> associated with their IETF datatracker account.   We do have a gallery
> of
> >>> photos for WG chairs, but I have no sense of how much those are used.
> >>
> >>
> >> I have repeatedly been told that the WG chair photos are really useful
> for people attending f2f meetings who want to seek out chairs to talk with
> them. The same would probably apply to any IETFer with whom they wanted to
> make contact at an f2f meeting.
> >>
> > yes I agree to that, photos are useful
> >
> > does "assiciated with their IETF datatracker account" mean that when you
> > go to the status page of a draft the photos of the authors would show
> > up? would be really neat :).
>
> Yes, that could be one way of integrating.   I think it takes some thought
> as to what would be useful & what would feel comfortable to IETFers.
>
> > A wrinkle coould be to display the photos of wg chairs on the charter
> > and/or the document page.
>
> Exactly.  If there's interest,  maybe we can brainstorm a bit.
>
>
> Or just a mouse over to pop up the picture. I like the idea.  If we have
> the pictures, they should be able to be used in this way as they've already
> been made public.
>
> Kathleen
>
> Regards,
> Alia
> >
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> I would love to figure out how to recreate the types of serendipitous
> interactions
> >>> and 'hallway' conversations that happen - but in an on-line setting.
> >>
> >>
> >> A few years back the IESG caused the creation of
> hallway@jabber.ietf.org. When I was on the IESG I tried to remember to
> hang out there when my jabber client was open. I think a couple of other
> ADs tried as well. As I recall, it was very rare for anyone else to be
> there and over a couple of years I think I fielded just one question.
> >>
> >
> > yes - I remember the hallway@jabber.ietf.org, the idea is good, but I
> guess that there are better applications that could be used today - in
> > a totally different context I've been using Telegram (not a suggestion,
> > just an example) and it works well. Though I don't know how big groups
> > that could be accommodated.
> >
> > /Loa
> >>
> >> Adrian
> >>
>
>