Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is now available.
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 28 August 2024 00:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is now available.
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On 28-Aug-24 10:21, Scott O. Bradner wrote: > > >> On Aug 27, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 28-Aug-24 08:38, Salz, Rich wrote: >>>> As long as you (the co-authors) accept that the process may mean unwinding the work you have done on (so far) 9 successive versions of this draft. >>> Sure. I started this work (with Scott and others) not knowing what it would look like after a consensus process was done with it. No matter what happens, I think a single document is easier to read than the dozen-plus that changed things over time. >>> As for my suggestion to hold off discussion, I'm not the IETF-list moderation team and of course folks are free to ignore me. My reason for making suggestion was that I thought it would be good to have a single list for the discussions, rather than fragmenting. >>> The URL you pointed to on the IETF website seems to me a symptom of no single formal document. :) >> >> I think it's also a living proof that no single fixed document can be sufficient. Like any legal or regulatory system, there is a constant need for updates and additions. Our system of immutable RFCs isn't well adapted to this. > > see > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-00 Indeed. In fact, https://www.ietf.org/process/informal/ started out as draft-carpenter-procdoc-roadmap, and was partly inspired by draft-bradner-stdproc-isd. Brian
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … John C Klensin
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … John C Klensin
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Scott Bradner
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Keith Moore
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Salz, Rich
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian Rosen
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Keith Moore
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … John C Klensin
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … John C Klensin
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Michael Richardson
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet-Draft draft-rsalz-2026bis-00.txt is … Michael Richardson