Re: IETF privacy policy - update

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Thu, 08 July 2010 20:25 UTC

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On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
>> Boy, would they dispute that. ITU has claimed that the IETF is not an open organization because a government cannot join it. Most membership organizations, RIPE, being an example, have a definition of how someone can become a member (members of RIPE are companies and pay a fee), and are considered open to that class of membership.
> 
> But the IETF isn't a membership organization - isn't that
> at least in part what's meant by "open," and why at least in
> part we don't have voting (in theory)?

We don't have voting because we don't have members, yes. Definitions of "open" vary, and boil down to a statement of what kind of actor an organization is open to. IETF is open to individuals.