Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Wed, 02 December 2020 03:09 UTC

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 19:08:55 -0800
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:37:33PM -0500, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 12/1/20 8:45 PM, Greg Skinner wrote:
> 
> >
> > AFAIK, ftp client functionality is available in Catalina and later 
> > MacOS releases through the Zftp Function System 
> > <https://www.csse.uwa.edu.au/programming/linux/zsh-doc/zsh_24.html>. 
> >  It also may be available depending upon which Perl, Python, or Tcl 
> > packages are installed.
> 
> There are also multiple Mac ftp clients available through Homebrew.   (I 
> can't imagine having a MacOS box without Homebrew, just like I can't 

I can.  (My personal mac doesn't have homebrew, or fink, or macports; just
a small grouping of critical third-party software compiled by hand, and
VMWare Fusion for doing more complicated things.)

> imagine having a Windows box without cygwin.)

My latest PC I kept Windows 10 on for a couple weeks before installing
Debian, and tried out the windows subsystem for linux.  It was actually
pretty usable -- the main annoyance was that cmd.exe is a lousy terminal
emulator.  But I'm told that there are other options available.  I don't
think I would need to have cygwin anymore in order to be able to do my
normal work, were I somehow compelled to use a windows machine full time.


I hope we can all try to keep in mind that others' workflows may well
differ from our own, and that is (usually) okay.  (That is, to some extent,
a key theme of this entire long thread.)

-Ben