Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 26 May 2016 01:37 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:37:02 +0900
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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Background on Singapore go/no go for IETF 100
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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com>;
wrote:

> we get to say _this_ to the Singapore government, who wants us to meet
> there enough that they have offered us $150K in incentives for us to come
> there:
>
> > “    Singapore laws against same-sex relationships between men and
> >    preventing the recognition of same-sex marriages could create
> >    difficulties for same-sex partners and their children


Where was this discussion held? I don't recall it here on the IETF list.

In addition to the obvious impact on future venue selection, which I assume
has already been debated (Are we going to have to stop holding IETFs in
Asia for a few years? What does that mean for IETF participants who live in
Asia? etc.) I would assume there are other local practices such as free
speech or unfettered Internet access that the IETF might want to take a
stand on. How do we decide which ones those are?

As a community-driven organization, we make most decisions via community
process (e.g., we make technical decisions via rough consensus). Should we
be working on putting together such a process to make this sort of decision?

It seems bad to make this sort of decision on an ad-hoc, case-by-case basis
as appears to be happening here.