RE: SecDir review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme-14

Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> Wed, 07 December 2016 05:45 UTC

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From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Matthew Kerwin <matthew.kerwin@qut.edu.au>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, "draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme.all@ietf.org>, "secdir@ietf.org" <secdir@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: SecDir review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme-14
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Just to be clear: I think the level of specification in this document
is appropriate and a "full" specification would be intractable.
 
But it would be useful to be just a bit more explicit about the things
that you should figure out before implementing (about what
other implementations do on the same platform).

Larry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Larry Masinter
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:03 PM
> To: Matthew Kerwin <matthew.kerwin@qut.edu.au>au>; Barry Leiba
> <barryleiba@computer.org>rg>; draft-ietf-appsawg-file-
> scheme.all@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org
> Cc: art@ietf.org; IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>rg>;
> paul.hoffman@vpnc.org
> Subject: Re: SecDir review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme-14
> 
> 
>      It’s a tiny thing, but where the abstract says “replacing the
>     definition in RFC 1738,” one may be led to think (I was) that 1738 has
>     a more robust definition than it does.  D’you mind changing that to
>     something like this: ‘This document provides a full specification of
>     the "file" Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) scheme, replacing the
>     very brief definition in Section 3.10 of RFC 1738.’
> 
> s/full/more complete/
> 
> A “full” specification of file: URIs might include a set of platform and
> file-system specific implementation advice about how to handle file
> naming, variations in Unicode normalization, case sensitivity, and so
> forth.
>