Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 07 April 2008 19:45 UTC

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From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures
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The IAOC and the IETF Trust have different focus.  The idea behind 
the separate chair is to make sure that someone is paying attention 
to the items that need to be handled by each body in a timely 
manner.  It is simply a mechanism to help ensure that noting is 
falling between the cracks.

Russ

--On April 4, 2008 11:50:23 AM +0200 Harald Alvestrand
<harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:

 > After considering the comments so far, I think I disagree with having a
 > separate Trust chair.
 >
 > The idea behind making the IAOC be the Trustees was, among other things,
 > to make sure that we didn't create yet another nexus of control in the
 > labyrinth of committees; I understood the legal existence of the
 > Trustees as something different (in name) from the IAOC to be strictly
 > something we did for legal purposes
 >
 > If the IAOC chair is overburdened by having to manage the IAOC in two
 > different contexts, get him (or her) a secretary.
 >
 > I agree with John's comment that leaving the current trustees in charge
 > on dissolution of the IAOC is inappropriate; for one thing, that also
 > removes all the recall mechanisms.
 > Figure out something else to do in this case.
 >
 >                            Harald

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