Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 28 November 2020 18:01 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>
Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
Thread-Topic: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 18:00:52 +0000
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    > For a long time, I struggled to download copies of IETF documents in the
    > form that the author intended

Why?  I have to admit that this makes me giggle, like seeing the Original Words in gilt lettering.  But my question is serious.