Re: perspective of discussion about I-D.farresnickel-harassment

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 22 March 2015 17:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: perspective of discussion about I-D.farresnickel-harassment
From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
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On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> wrote:

> On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If your concern is that you might obliviously misstep and be called
> > out on it - then yes - you may - and you may actually need to think
> > about it beforehand or learn from it afterwards.  Welcome to life.
>
> Thanks for saying this, Alia.   I've been feeling a bit frustrated by this
> conversation too, and not sure how to articulate that.   I think you've hit
> the nail on the head.   When I think about this topic, I definitely
> consider myself more likely to unwittingly (I hope!) engage in some kind of
> bad behavior that would result in censure than being the subject of such
> bad behavior.   However, I would _much_ rather be taken aside and have that
> pointed out to me than continue it or "get away" with it.
>
> That is the point of this effort: not to make anybody miserable, but to
> notice when things are going off the rails and put a stop to it before it
> really gets bad.   We are quite capable of improving this through
> successive approximation, whereas I don't think we can get it perfect on
> the first try.  We can't afford to just keep talking about it forever.
>
> I agree with Alia as well and will just add exposing the respondent could
expose the subject, an important consideration.


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Best regards,
Kathleen