Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

[Hannes Tschofenig <[e-mail]>]

On 06.09.2013 04:36, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> I'm not saying there's no issue or no work to do, but what's new about
> any of this?

Still at the end of last year I remember conversations in working groups 
that questions why we need TLS security for protocols like SCIM (a 
protocol that shuffles credentials around).

I don't think that the decision in the RTCWeb group against SDES would 
have been possible without the NSA news.

I also remember the Internet Privacy workshop the IAB and others 
organized about 2 years ago and back then we argued whether government 
surveillance is something we should focus on or whether we are mainly 
interested in companies who impact your privacy.

While some (many) have already anticipated that the NSA (and other 
governments) deploy massive surveillance technologies the extend to 
which it is done has surprised most security persons I know.

In a nutshell, the understanding and awareness of the wider Internet 
community has changed with those news.

Ciao
Hannes