Re: (long/architectural version) Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-uri-10.txt> (The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) DNS Resource Record) to Proposed Standard

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sat, 28 February 2015 04:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: (long/architectural version) Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-uri-10.txt> (The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) DNS Resource Record) to Proposed Standard
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Commenting on one thing only (I disagree with some of your other
comments but, given Pete's note, I don't see it as being useful
to debate them at this point)...

--On Saturday, February 28, 2015 01:36 +0000 Phillip
Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:

>...
> So if the .well-known label
> is 'myservice' we would use something like
> 
> _myservice._wks.example.com SRV 0 0 443 host1.example.net
> 
> https://host1.example.net/.well-known/myservice/

> All we are getting from URI is the ability to point the web
> service endpoint at any place in the Web site.

And, if nothing else, the ability to use URI schemes other than
https.  I think that is rather important; YMMD.
draft-falstrom-uri says "URI", not "web" or "http" or "https"
and the difference is significant.

    john