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From: Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
CC: IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn>, "draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all" <draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all@ietf.org>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, General Area Review Team <gen-art@ietf.org>, regext <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Gen-art] [regext] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-11
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I have to agree with Joel - but from a different angle.

The "normal process" seems to be that - once an ID is approved at the WG level by rough consensus - it goes to the IESG and then to the IETF as a whole.

If (for some reason) it does not gain rough consensus from the IETF as a whole (and this seems to be an extreme corner case), then it could be published as an individual RFC - but should be kicked back to the WG to make this decision.  

If it was then published as an individual (informational or experimental) RFC - that would be effectively because it first ceased to be a WG consensus draft.

This may not be obvious, but it makes more sense than assuming that the WG could cause the RFC editor to publish an ID as any kind of a WG consensus RFC without IETF concensus...

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [regext] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-11

> If I think about it too much, I end up unable to parse the notion of a 
> document published on the IETF stream without IETF rough consensus.

And yet they are there today and will continue to be.

b

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