Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Sun, 21 May 2023 22:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: Rivest's S-Expressions I-D no longer found
From: Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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There was a time before when draft copyright was assigned to the ISOC. 

I don’t recall the date, but this seems prior. 

Joe

> On May 21, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is there any reason why draft-rivest-sexp-00.txt cannot be reinstated to the datatracker? This has been done in the past with "lost" I-Ds.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
> 
>> On 22-May-23 06:34, John Levine wrote:
>> It appears that Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> said:
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>>> https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/Sexp.txt is no longer reachable.  This is a document I use often in my work so I'd like to have a more stable reference, like an Informational RFC.
>>> 
>>> Is there any interest in trying to do that?
>> The Internet Archive says it was last seen over a year ago in January 2022.
>> I concur with the suggestion to get MIT to resuscitate it, but in the meantime,
>> here's a copy that's not going away any time soon:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20220113221331/https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/Sexp.txt
>> R's,
>> John
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