RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Wed, 18 November 2020 22:34 UTC

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From: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: RE: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Hi,

Is there any way you could summarize your perspective in a single email and then stop?

Yours Irrespectively,

John


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Keith Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:13 PM
> To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
> 
> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:37 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jason's suggestion to point the FTP server at a stub with a README for
> > a week seems reasonable.
> 
> Because it is perfectly OK to break a non-interactive service with a message that
> chances are good no one will ever see.  But when people realize the service is
> broken and turn their clients off, somebody will say “see, nobody was using this
> after all!”
> 
> It reminds me of the algorithm for determining whether someone’s a witch-
> throw them into a large body of water and see if they float.
> 
> Keith
> 
> BTW, John, you are out of line.