Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Fri, 14 April 2017 16:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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There is a lot of value in face-to-face interaction.
While we can not always get the interactions we want, virtual 
interaction is no replacement for face-to-face.  Being able to chat with 
people between meetings.  Having folks in the same place to set up 
high-interaction discussions.  And multiple additional benefits.

Yes, funding matters.  But in my view that is secondary to the actual 
benefit of the meetings.  Which is why I attend.

Yours,
Joel

On 4/14/17 12:38 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
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> On 12/04/2017 15:30, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> Right, so this is why it's better for everyone to be remote.
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> Except that the IETF funding model requires attendees to pay their
> meeting fee.
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> - Stewart
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>