Re: The end of the Internet as we now it
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 15 October 2020 09:47 UTC
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:47:11 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: The end of the Internet as we now it
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Christian: Its most likely Marks fault. Since rfc8890 he is responsible for the list of end users for the Internet and must have forgotten to add you. Mark: Expecting Christian to understand rfc7230 headers before he can read it is recursive logic. Christian: wget -d https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7230 paste relevant output if that does not work. I think what Mark was suggesting is: openssl s_client -crlf -connect tools.ietf.org:443 GET /html/rfc7230 HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: Not Christian Huitema Host: tools.ietf.org (don't forget empty line at the end) Cheers Toerless On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 05:18:49PM +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote: > Send: > > GET /html/rfc7230 HTTP/1.1 > Host: tools.ietf.org > Is-Christian: ?0 > > Cheers, > > > > On 15 Oct 2020, at 5:17 pm, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote: > > > > I think there must be some side effect from my setup. What is really > > weird is that it fails from 2 different computers. > > > > I know the RFC can be accessed elsewhere. In fact, the IETF datatracker > > works. It is just an issue for me with the tool server. But it is really > > weird. > > > > On 10/14/2020 11:10 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> Christian, > >> > >> The relevant HTTP RFCs are also available at <https://httpwg.org/specs/> -- and of course <https://rfc-editor.org/>. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> > >>> On 15 Oct 2020, at 5:01 pm, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> Keeps not working for me. Tried getting RFC1984, same result. Tried from my IPhone and that's forbidden too. I wonder whether I was put on some kind of no-rfc list. > >>> > >>> On 10/14/2020 10:37 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > >>>> Works for me... > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPad > >>>> > >>>>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:08 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ??? Seems to work for me. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iCar > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:20 AM, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ??? > >>>>>> Trying to access RFC 7230 as https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7230, I get: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Forbidden > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You don't have permission to access /html/rfc7230 on this server. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. > >>>>>> Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at tools.ietf.org Port 443 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, the Internet is no for everybody anymore... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- Christian Huitema > >> -- > >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > >> > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- The end of the Internet as we now it Christian Huitema
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Jared Mauch
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Fred Baker
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Christian Huitema
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Mark Nottingham
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Christian Huitema
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Mark Nottingham
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Christian Huitema
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Leif Johansson
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Toerless Eckert
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Salz, Rich
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Jared Mauch
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Ofer Inbar
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Dave Cridland
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Dave Aronson
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Michael Thomas
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Christian Huitema
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Michael Thomas
- Re: The end of the Internet as we now it Toerless Eckert