Re: Internet 2020 Goals

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 02 June 2014 17:04 UTC

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On 5/29/2014 5:51 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:
>
>> I'm talking about whether the IETF/ISOC is a useful home for the discussion.
>> I don't think it is, because for every 100 network researchers there are 101
>> such documents "predicting the future", none of which have done much without
>> associated money.
>
> Well you completely missed the difference between a goal and a prediction:
>
> A goal is an outcome that is desired.
> A prediction is an outcome that is expected.

I think you have it reversed:
	- a goal is an outcome towards which a community is working
	(with funding to back it up)

	- prediction is what groundhogs do early February, and people
	do with about as much accuracy and utility

> As I pointed out at the start, the money concern here is what to spend it on.

The people with the money get to decide that.

Joe