Re: Internet 2020 Goals
Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 02 June 2014 17:04 UTC
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On 5/29/2014 5:51 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > >> I'm talking about whether the IETF/ISOC is a useful home for the discussion. >> I don't think it is, because for every 100 network researchers there are 101 >> such documents "predicting the future", none of which have done much without >> associated money. > > Well you completely missed the difference between a goal and a prediction: > > A goal is an outcome that is desired. > A prediction is an outcome that is expected. I think you have it reversed: - a goal is an outcome towards which a community is working (with funding to back it up) - prediction is what groundhogs do early February, and people do with about as much accuracy and utility > As I pointed out at the start, the money concern here is what to spend it on. The people with the money get to decide that. Joe
- Internet 2020 Goals Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Dave Cridland
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Ofer Inbar
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat IT&Internet)
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals joel jaeggli
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Miles Fidelman
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Ofer Inbar
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Miles Fidelman
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Pranesh Prakash
- Re: Internet 2020 Goals Joe Touch