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Re: The Last Call social contract (was - Re: Rude responses)

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Fri, 23 August 2013 19:47 UTC

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On 8/23/2013 11:06 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> We don't have to be like the ones we all know who sneer at anyone
> presuming to get in the way of their code going into production.


Since this is such a fundamental point, I'm sending this reply to emphasize:

    The concern I expressed had nothing at all to do with this.

What prompted my note that in turn prompted Pete's was a form of 
counter-productive LC behavior that I consider to be abusive and since 
it was from a highly experienced participant, inexcusable.

Serious questions and suggestions from serious reviewers/critics are 
/essential/ to IETF quality assurance and I have as little patience for 
the sneering you describe as anyone else.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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