Re: A sad farewell

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Wed, 04 November 2020 09:03 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2020 10:01:17 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
Cc: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: A sad farewell
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On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 09:07:45PM +0100,
 Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote 
 a message of 178 lines which said:

> I am sorry to hear the insight about LLC operations, because to me
> the contributor facing view i had was very positive. But either i am
> not on the right mailing lists, or these internal conflicts are not
> exposed at all for the community to be able to influence them.

I concur: ordinary participants of the IETF were not aware there was
such a big problem. It is annoying to discover it only too late.

Because of this ignorance, I cannot say who is right or wrong. I just
hope that the IETF will not go the way of corporate management style,
with dumb contractors just doing what they are told to do. Tools are
better when they are developed by people who care and who use them.