Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 02 June 2020 21:41 UTC

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 14:41:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:25 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> Hiya,
>
> I think this bit is where our disagreement is most clear:
>
> On 02/06/2020 22:16, Ted Hardie wrote:
> > But somebody has to be the stuckee for the decision on the money side of
> > that, and at the moment it is the LLC.
>
> The move from zero to non-zero is not "on the money
> side" as the status-quo involves no fee. (Ignoring
> the exception that will be IETF108.)
>
> Well, we agree that we disagree.  From my perspective, zero is not a magic
number, and the status quo is not doctrine.  Both, in the case, are part of
a balancing act that goes into making sure the IETF works both for a
meeting and for the long term.  Handing financial responsibility for that
without the relevant authority is an invitation to silly states.

FWIW, this discussion is convincing me more that
> the LLC definitely ought not be setting such policies.
>
>
And you are convincing me that attempting to settle it on the IETF list
will require somebody to judge consensus, since there look to be a minimum
of two people with the time and keyboards available to disagree.  We
apparently, however, disagree on who that should be.

best,

Ted


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