Re: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 25 February 2020 15:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107 Vancouver
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Le 25/02/2020 à 15:43, Mary B a écrit :
> For people that are worried, you can follow the situation (based on 
> real reported numbers) here:
> http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/
>
> Johns Hopkins has something similar but their's wasn't updated the 
> last I looked.


Thanks for letting me and others know.  So here is an initial list:

http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/

Johns Hopkins

https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/articles/infection-au-nouveau-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-covid-19-france-et-monde

At least these links should be browsed in order to make one's mind.

(I find it strange that ietf.org lists only one central Agency and the 
dst Agency; they should have listed all the src Agencies, meaning all 
the countries Agencies where people come from, and their regions' and 
cities agencies; we dont lack the technical tools to list them).

>
> Regards,
> Mary.
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 7:14 AM Alexandre Petrescu 
> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     These are my thoughts:
>
>     - has the situation improved since we last talked about this?
>
>     - have we absorbed the biggest?
>
>     - ...
>
>     Alex
>
>     Le 25/02/2020 à 00:41, Arleen Elliott a écrit :
>     > Thoughts
>     >
>     >
>     > -------- Original Message --------
>     > Subject: Further update on COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and IETF 107
>     Vancouver
>     > From: IETF Executive Director <exec-director@ietf.org
>     <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org>>
>     > Date: Feb 24, 2020, 6:34 PM
>     > To: IETF Announcement List <ietf-announce@ietf.org
>     <mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org>>
>     > As IETF 107 Vancouver approaches we thought it would be useful
>     to update
>     > you on our planning around COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and the potential
>     > impact on this meeting.
>     >
>     > Before that, it is worth noting that registrations for the
>     meeting are
>     > at a good level [1] and continue to grow in line with expectations.
>     >
>     > Our policy regarding the risk to health posed by COVID-19 is
>     that we
>     > will follow public health guidelines for events of this nature, in
>     > particular those of the World Health Organisation [2] and the
>     Public
>     > Health Agency of Canada [3].  Neither of those bodies recommend
>     > cancelling meetings of this nature but they do recommend some
>     specific
>     > planning [4] and we are following those recommendations.
>     >
>     > Accordingly, the following special measures are being put into
>     place for
>     > IETF 107 in Vancouver.
>     >
>     > 1. Measures to prevent transmission by surface contact:
>     > - We will provide all in-person participants with hand sanitizer
>     and
>     > surface wipes free of charge.
>     > - Surface wipes will be available in multiple rooms for cleaning
>     any
>     > shared equipment or surfaces, such as microphones and door handles.
>     > - We are exploring changes to blue sheets, including online
>     > alternatives, rather than pass a sheet and pen around.
>     > - We’re going to ask that you do not feel obliged to shake hands
>     with
>     > anyone and also do not feel offended if anyone declines to do so.
>     > - Buses for the social event (which is still being planned) will
>     leave
>     > at staggered intervals and also have wipes available.
>     >
>     > 2.  Measures for anyone who feels unwell to prevent them spreading
>     > infection:
>     > - We are setting aside a room as an isolation room supplied with
>     masks
>     > and a thermometer for anyone who feels ill during the meeting.
>     > - We are making arrangements with a local clinic so that we can
>     call a
>     > doctor to attend to anyone in self-imposed isolation to minimise
>     their
>     > travel through communal areas.
>     >
>     > 3.  Voluntary travel guidelines for travellers from China (the
>     meeting
>     > host, Huawei, is discussing this topic with other companies
>     based in China):
>     > - Only staff from provinces where travel is allowed and on a
>     whitelist
>     > of those who have had their health monitored for a number of
>     weeks will
>     > participate in-person at the meeting.
>     > - Some in-person participants, including the Huawei employees
>     based in
>     > China, plan to arrive 7 days early, monitoring any symptoms before
>     > attending the meeting.
>     > - The number of in-person participants will be reduced to essential
>     > travellers with the rest participating remotely.
>     >
>     > 4.  (As previously advised) Changes to our cancellation policy
>     > - Anyone who is unable to attend due to government imposed travel
>     > restrictions will be eligible for a full refund.
>     > - We will continue with the normal policy of providing a full
>     refund to
>     > anyone who is unable to travel due to visa issues.
>     >
>     >
>     > We understand that some people are very concerned about the risk to
>     > health, that some other events have been cancelled or switched to a
>     > remote-only model and that some companies are putting corporate
>     travel
>     > restrictions into place.  However, it remains our view that
>     there are
>     > significant risks in both under-reacting and over-reacting to this
>     > complex and developing situation, and as we are not
>     epidemiologists or
>     > public health experts we will follow the evidence-based advice
>     of those
>     > that are.
>     >
>     > Following the same reasoning, we will not be offering full
>     refunds in
>     > the event of someone being unable to travel due to corporate
>     > restrictions and the cancellation fee will still apply. Full
>     details of
>     > our registration policy for IETF 107 Vancouver are available on our
>     > website [5].
>     >
>     >
>     > Finally, we are working on a backup plan for a fully remote meeting
>     > should we need to cancel the in-person meeting, but there are a
>     number
>     > of logistical challenges to overcome.
>     >
>     > Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any
>     questions or
>     > comments.
>     >
>     >
>     > [1] https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf107/attendance.py
>     > [2] https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
>     > [3]
>     >
>     https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection.html
>     > [4] https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1269109/retrieve
>     > [5]
>     >
>     https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/ietf107-special-registration-provisions/
>     >
>     > --
>     > Jay Daley
>     > IETF Executive Director
>     > exec-director@ietf.org <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org>
>     >
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